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	<title>Comments on: Gmail.co.za launches&#8230;.uugh!</title>
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		<title>By: shantanand</title>
		<link>http://ofrelevance.com/2009/02/11/gmailcoza-launchesuugh/comment-page-1/#comment-18763</link>
		<dc:creator>shantanand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry please advise the smpt outgoing servers details for gmail.co.za</description>
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		<title>By: shantanand</title>
		<link>http://ofrelevance.com/2009/02/11/gmailcoza-launchesuugh/comment-page-1/#comment-18761</link>
		<dc:creator>shantanand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please advise the smtp detail for outgoing mail</description>
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		<title>By: Reg Scheepers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reg Scheepers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last commenter is absolutely correct. DO NOT USE WEBMAIL OR INTERFACE  FOR ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY MARKETING. YOU WILL REGRET IT!

My company, Brothers in Beat was approached by Webmail to advertise with them. They offered to send 30 000 emails to their list. At the meeting Webmail employee Gary Cahoon showed me an excel sheet of responses to a previous email campaign that they sent for a company in the same industry as mine (team building). This excel sheet had many responses, I would estimate around 100 responses. It was based on this that I enterted into an agreement with Webmail Int.

I received TWO (2) responses.

When I cancelled the agreement they let me know that I’m still liable for 75% of the total. They are basically asking me to pay them R25 000 for two responses to an email mailer sent to 30 000 people (This terrible response rate demonstrates that Webmail is selling a poor quality product, since the same material sent by Webmail was also sent by our regular email marketing company, Interactive Direct and receives a great response. So it’s not our marketing material that’s at fault here.)

My advocate informed me that they misrepresented to me the potential number of responses that we could expect and that it was under that premise that we entered into the agreement with Webmail. My advocate also informed me that we could take the stance that we no longer consider ourselves under any obligation to pay Webmail, which we have done.

They are now threatening to list my company on the ITC. A quick Google search reveals that there are many, many people who are unhappy and feel cheated by Webmail.

DON&#039;T USE WEBMAIL. You will seriously regret it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last commenter is absolutely correct. DO NOT USE WEBMAIL OR INTERFACE  FOR ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY MARKETING. YOU WILL REGRET IT!</p>
<p>My company, Brothers in Beat was approached by Webmail to advertise with them. They offered to send 30 000 emails to their list. At the meeting Webmail employee Gary Cahoon showed me an excel sheet of responses to a previous email campaign that they sent for a company in the same industry as mine (team building). This excel sheet had many responses, I would estimate around 100 responses. It was based on this that I enterted into an agreement with Webmail Int.</p>
<p>I received TWO (2) responses.</p>
<p>When I cancelled the agreement they let me know that I’m still liable for 75% of the total. They are basically asking me to pay them R25 000 for two responses to an email mailer sent to 30 000 people (This terrible response rate demonstrates that Webmail is selling a poor quality product, since the same material sent by Webmail was also sent by our regular email marketing company, Interactive Direct and receives a great response. So it’s not our marketing material that’s at fault here.)</p>
<p>My advocate informed me that they misrepresented to me the potential number of responses that we could expect and that it was under that premise that we entered into the agreement with Webmail. My advocate also informed me that we could take the stance that we no longer consider ourselves under any obligation to pay Webmail, which we have done.</p>
<p>They are now threatening to list my company on the ITC. A quick Google search reveals that there are many, many people who are unhappy and feel cheated by Webmail.</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T USE WEBMAIL. You will seriously regret it.</p>
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		<title>By: webmail Sucks</title>
		<link>http://ofrelevance.com/2009/02/11/gmailcoza-launchesuugh/comment-page-1/#comment-4743</link>
		<dc:creator>webmail Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Webmail International should be investigated for bad business practice, lying to clients and customers and breach of contract. After being approached by Webmail and being assured that there was no spamming, fantastic response rates (30%-40%) and examples of the other companies who had great results. I signed up. Since then, they don&#039;t return calls, they are amateur in the extreme, they threaten legal action at every turn and refuse to engage at all. I have since found out that the database that &#039;signed&#039; up to receive direct mail is their own email database. In order to get a free Webmail email address they require huge amounts of personal information. They use this info to spam their own clientele and then charge me for the pleasure!!! The privacy they promise their email clients is a farce. Every time somebody clicks through I get their phone number and their email address. I&#039;m sure they love that! 96% of my direct mailers were deleted without opening! So much for a target market. The response rate has been 0.01% - if I had given away free product to these 69 people I would have saved thousands of Rands. I paid R30k to spam consumers and I am so furious. Webmail must be stopped!! 

If you have been scammed by this company please contact me on WebmailSucksBig@gmail.com and let&#039;s stop them once and for all!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Webmail International should be investigated for bad business practice, lying to clients and customers and breach of contract. After being approached by Webmail and being assured that there was no spamming, fantastic response rates (30%-40%) and examples of the other companies who had great results. I signed up. Since then, they don&#8217;t return calls, they are amateur in the extreme, they threaten legal action at every turn and refuse to engage at all. I have since found out that the database that &#8216;signed&#8217; up to receive direct mail is their own email database. In order to get a free Webmail email address they require huge amounts of personal information. They use this info to spam their own clientele and then charge me for the pleasure!!! The privacy they promise their email clients is a farce. Every time somebody clicks through I get their phone number and their email address. I&#8217;m sure they love that! 96% of my direct mailers were deleted without opening! So much for a target market. The response rate has been 0.01% &#8211; if I had given away free product to these 69 people I would have saved thousands of Rands. I paid R30k to spam consumers and I am so furious. Webmail must be stopped!! </p>
<p>If you have been scammed by this company please contact me on <a href="mailto:WebmailSucksBig@gmail.com">WebmailSucksBig@gmail.com</a> and let&#8217;s stop them once and for all!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Eve Dmochowska</title>
		<link>http://ofrelevance.com/2009/02/11/gmailcoza-launchesuugh/comment-page-1/#comment-4292</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve Dmochowska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Steve I agree. Far better to just show ads in context of your email content, like Gmail does....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Steve I agree. Far better to just show ads in context of your email content, like Gmail does&#8230;.</p>
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